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Using the first example: The work page Drang in die Ferne, D.770 (Op.71) (Schubert, Franz) would have the tag "Lieder for Solo Voice and Piano" This would create an infinite number of "tags", especially if uploaders are expected to tag German Art Songs "Lieder for Solo Voice...

Every single tag thought up would then have to be a category, and then each and every category/tag would itself have to be properly categorized, something that would be easier to deal with on the work page.

I have no problem if somebody wants to tag things to their heart's content, but we will still need a stable category system.

Steltz, once again, this thread is concerned with categorization. If you want Search Terms, start your own thread and ask the devs if they can add a Search Term field to the template. And if we're going worry about so-called "hybrid" works, we need to add Orchestas to your Stage Works cate...

Actually, when categorizing, you don't need to add the larger categories like "Solo vocal works", because "Art Song" would already be a sub-category of it - adding a parent category would actually be redundant. You also need to decide how specific you want to get, and there comes...

Yes, exactly, "Lieder" is a search tag, not a Category, and there is no Tag field on the work pages. As the Sibley example shows, "Lieder" is not a standard cataloging term either.
This thread is concerned with Genre Categories.

This thread is about a Genre Category. The use of "Lieder" in the context you are referring to is a Tag . When you search for "Lieder" in non-German libraries, your search results will contain the term in the title, subtitle or one of the alternate titles, but few if any in the s...

Steltz, the term in question refers to the name of the Category that will contain all the Lieder, Melodies, Arias, Song Cycles etc. This thread has nothing to do with the validity of the term "Lieder" itself, or it's use in tagging German songs, but what to name the Category . Art Songs ar...

The biggest problem we have now is not with the "Lieder" per se, but with the French "Melodies", for which we have no proper (sub)category. And then, if we have special subcategories for German "Lieder" and French "Melodies", what do we do with all the rest of...

Steltz, this thread is about Categories, not Tags. Category:Lieder, Category:Chansons, Category:Art Songs. For example, I went to Sibley and searched "Lieder". I definitely didn't get only those works that had "Lieder" in the title. Look further. When the word wasn't in the Title...

Steltz, What we need a specific term, that if you search it, it will bring up all the Lieder/Art Songs/Melodies that you are looking for. I also habitually call these "Lieder", but in actually going through and trying to sort out the Lieder on the IMSLP, I can see clearly that this term ca...

Steltz, that's still "solo vocal", I'll clarify as 1 or more solo voice.
If one term is used consistently and productively, users will quickly catch on. Right now most of the French Lieder won't be found by searching any of the usual terms.
Operalala

Davydov, no reason to "hey" me. The only opposition you have made is your own non-"consensus", and you have presented no constructive suggestions for improvement. I am working on this little corner of the IMSLP, and now is the time to get this section straightened out. Operalala ...

Steltz, yes, it will be replaced with "Art Song". And the same with mis-named "Chansons". If the word "Lied" is in the title, it of course will stay.

If anyone who has any objections to these category changes could spell out what the actual problems might be, and suggest constructive improvements, please do so. Otherwise, I'm fixing these long-overdue categories starting tomorrow.
Operalala