I've been following this thread and the forums rather closely, and I'm sadden to se IMSLP closed for differnt
reasons than those of the letter (Which was rather simple to implement actually).
No man should be bothered with any wording from any lawyer. Lawyers are scums! End of story! (and I have relatives that are lawyers actually).
Wording, no wroding, threatening non threatening, when we are talking about IMSLP and such size sites and project, these are irrelavent.
I'm sorry to say but all responsible for IMSLP should just remove the score, send an e-mail "yes we will deal with it asas, to comply with copyrights" and get it over.
copyright discussions do NOT bellong here. I'm all for threads being alive, and discussions getting off topic etc, but all this is almost irrelavent.
Right now the public (And we're talking about millions per month) are missing all public domain scores which are CLEARLY public domain. And it's a shame!
What is more, irrelavent parties (in the general sense of the word) have jumped on the gun to take advantage of the situation! I can understand this and certainly I can see the opportunities, but I find this unfortunate to say the least.
UE hired lawyers as any firm would do! big deal! I said it before: Laywer treat their mothers with suits. Get over it.
You are discussing copyright laws???? Ridiculous! There might be reason to change. I'm a composer, I'd like to leave something to my kids but I turn to the toilet to vomit when I see 68 years after the death of Holst Zimmer getting sued! (for example), and anything simmilar. Copyright is there for a reason. But of course I wouldn't like to see it getting to my grand grand children! It is highly ridiculous, I agree! But now? here? In IMSLP?
It's a pity that UE is getting bashed SO heavily (I'm bassing this on the 2nd letter, and know nothing about 50,000$ or euros or whatever) according to a letter which they had to send! Copyrights, are copyrights, IMSLP had NOTHING to do with piracy or P2P or anything, and now it's been almost being treated as such!
Everybody seems to be stalling time.
For what I ask?
I'm the interested part: I gave my own scores on IMSLP, and I also got scores from it. A useful resource and a great site, for which I was impressed by the professionalism approached. Any score which was between the 50 and 70 year gap, was noted. As it should have. The industry is bothered? Big deal! It would be! no reason for the industry to care abuot the public.
richard Black: You appear to know rather little about how things work. your initial post was an insult to any musician and composer! (including me). Your later post is defending a case, which for me is done and complete. You are being dragged into this for no reason.
I would honestly want IMSLP reopened. There is little room for debate really. Bartok is still copyrighted material? boo hoo hoo! Allow only Canadai IP and problem solved, or remove Bartok. In 10-20 years it will be public domain. Problem solved. Same with any other composer. There are MILLIONS! MILLIONS of composers loking to get promoted! Use them! You need Bartok? You need Malher? I can promise you that there are millions of composers who wouldn't mind getting their scores on IMSLP (as I didn't). Why not approach those?
This thread is SO MUCH OFF TOPIC.