Historical regions used as nationalities

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Historical regions used as nationalities

Postby tim.willis1685 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:46 pm

I've noticed that a "Prussian" nationality is beginning to be used. [[Category:Benda, Franz|See Benda]]. Perhaps there should be a discussion on how and to what extent historical regions should be used to categorise people before it is implemented. My opinion is that is it probably too complicated and potentially too politically sensitive. If Prussian is allowed, then categories should be made for Saxony, Silesia, Bohemia, Moravia etc etc. Taking Benda as an example; he was a native Czech speaker, born in Bohemia which was then owned by the Austrian Hapsburgs. The larger part of his musical career was spent in Berlin, then capital of the Kingdom of Prussia. So we could say Benda's nationalities are Bohemian, Czech, Austrian, Prussian and German but is this really necessary?

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Re: Historical regions used as nationalities

Postby jujimufu » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 am

This is a good question.

I guess there is some value in referring to people's "nationality" as they would have referred to it themselves at the time they lived.

For example, we can talk about Roman or Byzantine Emperors, without having to clarify that actually what was then Roman Empire is now Italy, or what was then Byzantium is now Turkey, and so on.

The wikipedia page, by comparison, refers to Benda as a "Bohemian" composer (essentially Czech) — which is fair as at the time it was called the Kingdom of Bohemia. Perhaps that's more apt than Prussian? Perhaps both Bohemian (so that he can be categorised alongside composers from the same region and time-period) as well as Czech? And Prussian because that's where he composed mostly?

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Re: Historical regions used as nationalities

Postby Carolus » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:01 pm

There's always Belgium - a country that didn't exist until after Napoleon's defeat - being used for Renaissance composers, etc.

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