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need that music books?

Postby lostinmusic » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:09 pm

hi,
i hope this is in the right topic section

i was wondering if anyone needs that music books scanned? them are from the former ddr (east germany)

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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby steltz » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:51 am

The recorder teacher at my university would probably love to look at the recorder things if you are offering to do the scanning. Thanks in advance!
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:06 pm

i'm using ubuntu 9.10 with the epson V100 scanner:
http://lostinmusic.i-mod-productions.co ... nderts.png

scanned at 600dpi (should i go 1200?) without adding any filters..what do you think about the quality? any suggestions with what program (native linux) i can add the filter used in this tut http://imslp.org/wiki/High_Quality_Scanning in the second picture?

if i'll scan this will this be available in the imslp.org/wiki like all the other scores or does it not fit the imslp's topic?
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby KGill » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:42 pm

You can upload it to IMSLP: books whose primary topics are music are allowed. Put the author as composer, and use the normal copyright guidelines as always. That engraving looks fairly modern; when were these published? Was there an editor, or was it just a straight (re-)engraving?
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:36 pm

http://lostinmusic.i-mod-productions.co ... nderts.png
it says the editor was "paul donath" and music publisher "veb friedrich hofmeister"

here's the back of that first info page:
http://lostinmusic.i-mod-productions.co ... nderts.png

unfortunately there's no release date ..i would guess it's 30-40 years old
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ok, if the main topic of imslp is: any music score (?) then this fits! :)

now two questions left:
1. if the 600dpi is ok then also i would like to add a filter:
what program (native linux) i can add the filter used in this tut http://imslp.org/wiki/High_Quality_Scanning in the second picture?
(of course i'll do the manual removing of the black stuff at the border)
2. is it public domain?
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby KGill » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:54 pm

Judging from WorldCat, it appears to have been published in 1965. Heft II came out in 1968. If this is a critical edition with no original editorial markings, then my guess is that it's all right in Canada at least. CRs, what say?
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:33 am

should i ask here viewforum.php?f=13 or does anyone know if this is public domain so the scanning-work would be worth doing it and so i would be allowed to submit it to imslp?

CRs, what say?

"CRs"?
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby KGill » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:56 pm

'CR' stands for 'Copyright Reviewer'. No member of that group seems to have evaluated this case yet; since I am not one, I am loath to pass judgment.
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:51 pm

ah ok..yes waiting for the CRs :)
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby Carolus » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:56 am

Issues from the GDR (East Germany) had no copyright protection in the USA at all, though (as with the Soviet publications) works of recent composers were protected via the GATT/TRIPs "restoration" amendments in 1996. Urtext editions issued there (usually under the names of publishers whose facilities had been taken over by the state enterprise) were not eligible due to Germany's 25-year term for such editions (GDR was unified with the rest of Germany in 1990). The 1965 and 1968 recorder issues would be free in the USA, in the EU, and (most likely) Canada.
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:52 am

ah ok..i'm going to do the scan probably this weekend
since i dont know what filter was used in the second picture of the tut i only will remove these black lines on the edge
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:34 pm

(c-flute:) as the 2nd headline says it's once for c-flute and once piano..there are 8 pages for c-flute which i've all already scanned (600dpi)

(piano:) after the 1-3 into/info pages follows the 4th-27th pages for piano and the 28th page is some info about the categories used in that music book

here are the already scanned ones: http://lostinmusic.i-mod-productions.com/scan/

ps: i will scan the cover too, in full color range
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:27 pm

today i scanned all pages, manually removed the black lines and uploaded the pdf:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Aus_Notenb%C3%BCc ... Various%29
i hope i filled all the files correctly out
:)

ps: in Genre dropdown menu i couldn't find ~"Piano and/or Flute" since this is either "for c-flute (or any other melody instrument) or piano"
pps: if scanning the cover in full color range the file is ~50MB so i left this out
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby steltz » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:18 am

You would use "Single instrument with piano piece" or, if a piece is a sonata, "Sonata (piano with 1 instrument). Don't worry too much if you didn't choose a correct one -- it can be changed after you submit it. I regularly correct small things like that.

If a flute player wants to search for something like this, he can go to the search box and type in:

"Single instrument with piano piece" flute

and they will all come up.

[Edit] I have corrected the genre now, but I am going to download this at work next week. Depending on which composers are in the book, I may change the instrumentation to harpsichord, since the piano was a later 1700s instrument.
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Re: need that music bocks?

Postby lostinmusic » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:42 am

thx for correcting
the works are from "Contains works by J. S. Bach, Händel, L. Mozart and W. A. Mozart. "(from worldcat.org), see also page 28
after reading wikipedia i'd almost say it's harpsichord
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