Vivian Fine Epigram and Epitaph title problem

[rhymesandchymes]

The title has quotation marks which I see has put it at the end of the VF composition list instead of under E. Can you take the quotation marks out? I think it's better to sacrifice them than have it out of order. I can put the original title in as an alternate title.

[cypressdome]

Hi rhymesandchymes

I've tried to add a defaultsort template to the work page that should place the work under the letter E on Vivian Fine's page without requiring the work's title to be changed. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working and now that I've looked at other uses of defaultsort on the wiki they don't seem to be working either. Hopefully, someone with more brains that I can figure out what is going on with defaultsort. If not, the work page can be re-directed to one without the quotation marks.

Cypressdome

[KGill]

The defaultsort template hasn't worked for years - I think it's been brought up before at least a few times, since it is something of an inconvenience. I don't recall at the moment if at any point Feldmahler has indicated that he plans to fix the problem; perhaps it's not easily soluble.

[Carolus]

KGill is correct about the template. One thing that still works for this purpose is to insert the following at the bottom of the workpage: [[Category:Fine, Vivian|<Title without Quotes>]]. This causes the pages to be sorted in the desired order within the category.

[KGill]

But that still only works for the one category - the real advantage of defaultsort is that you can sort it the same way within all categories the page is put into, without ever having to manually update it. Although the composer category is probably the most important single one in which the sorting should be correct, that still leaves all the instrumentation/work type/language categories, editor/arranger/librettist/translator/performer, etc. So, this is very much a stopgap.